Friday, November 07, 2008

What OGI Problems, Part II

We weren't the only ones who thought the previous Law Weekly coverage of the OGI process was misleading. A letter from "Three Jobless 2Ls" was published today in the paper:

It was with disbelief and dismay that we read the recent articles on the On Grounds Interview (OGI) process in the Law Weekly. One article concluded merely that, having gone through two months of OGIs and callbacks, students were “happy to have done it.” The other piece concluded with a blithe assessment from Assistant Dean for Career Services Polly Lawson that the administration was “pleased with everything this year.”

Nowhere was it mentioned that many 2Ls, having completed the process, are still struggling to find jobs for the summer, and have to start over at a time when most law firm employers have already filled their summer slots. Indeed, the articles seemed to suggest the usual line to take care with canceling callbacks and accepting offers; in fact, the only 2L interviewed who looked for a firm job this year regretted taking so many OGIs, because it just wasn’t necessary.

Together, the three authors of this letter had about 60 OGIs, nearly 20 callbacks, and zero offers. Two are in the top third of the class; the other is on Law Review. We are not alone. The purpose of this is not to spread panic or sow fear, but to present a more balanced picture of the OGI process, especially now, in a time of economic downturn and uncertainty. The “good-as-ever” coverage of this year’s interview process by the Law Weekly (written, not coincidentally, by a couple of 1Ls), was not only insulting and inaccurate, but it perpetuates the same trusting, sole reliance on the OGI process that helped create the problem for us and other 2Ls like us in the first place.

Sincerely,

Three Jobless 2Ls

That's tough. So, maybe Career Services should have advised people to start Mail-Merge in August, at the same time they are doing OGI? Would that help?

Previous Coverage: J'accuse: Law School, Weekly, Paint to Rosy a Picture of the OGI Process?

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure I believe this. How could someone on Law Review not get an offer?

Rule 12 (f) said...

write on + economies?

Anonymous said...

The Law Review comment is definitely true. Please be courteous and do not reveal the individual's name.

Rule 12 (f) said...

that's our policy - we only identify law school individuals with hilarious monikers, and even then he or she usually requests it. xoxo.

Anonymous said...

This is totally unrealted:

I think you should do a piece on proposition 8, Obama's stance on Gay Marriage, and whatever else ties in.

Rule 12 (f) said...

We'll get right on it! We have unlimited time these days, no worries about bombing all of our finals, and in depth knowledge of just about any topic!!

Srsly, though that is important - Obama DOES support repealing DOMA, to be fair, even if he doesn't "support" gay marriage.

Anonymous said...

agreed on the law review insight but no offered in the top 1/3 of the class? if you are that far above the median and were unable to land an offer, chances are it isn't entirely the economy's fault for such poor employment prospects.

too selective in geographic preferences? firm rankings? still, can't discredit the likelihood that - like most ls students - they have dull/smug/douchey personalities.

Anonymous said...

uh, disagree. Outside NYC it's been very tough this year and it could a combination of no tie to a specific region + bad luck. I also think that firms are now more than ever not willing to hire the straight through / no prior WE type people. I have a friend who is top 1/3 (above 3.4) and also at this point still has zero offers. . .

Anonymous said...

In NYC it has been very tough this year as well...

Anonymous said...

i think nyc it has a been a little easier sine they have larger class sizes . . .

Anonymous said...

"Douchey?" Can we please up the level of discourse. We aren't kids anymore.

Anonymous said...

this makes sense: YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO PEOPLE TO GET A JOB. These 3Ls clearly have issues with communicating and feelings of entitlement, as evident in their letter. I will not name the person on law review but I will say he has issues exactly with "communicating and feelings of entitlement." No law firm wants someone who thinks they are automatic/too-good-to-be-there

Anonymous said...

i really have some trouble believing that students at UVA would have trouble conducting themselves in an interview (esp. with mock interview programs, etc.) - can't you just let the interviewer do most of the talking and just kind of sit there and let things roll? that's why i am surprised about this LR kid